Seminar - Millionaire Mind Intensive

Overall Seminar Rating: A -

Who Should Attend: Just about anyone

Would I Attend Again: No. For myself, an initial attendance of the seminar is enough. Harv’s book is a complete summary of the program, which I have used for review.

Cost: In Dollars, Free, but it does take a lot of time in the program itself and in re-coup.

What Is It?
The Millionaire Mind Intensive is a 3-day free seminar put on by Peak Potentials Training. The primary purpose of the seminar is as a lead in to their other product and seminar sales. However, the content does provide financial awareness and tools to creating wealth and life balance. You can expect between 1000 and 3000 people in attendance, depending on the location.

To Sum It Up
They start the Millionaire Mind Intensive with just a little too much hype, in my opinion. It was a little overwhelming... okay it was downright freaky! I contemplated leaving after the first ten minutes, but I stuck it out, and I am very glad I did. Although the program periodically reverted back to evangelical tendencies, the substance of the material being offered was fantastic. This program pretty much follows Harv Eker's Millionaire Mind book to the letter. In fact, it doesn't matter who is actually speaking, the same stories and examples are used. The primary bonus of the Intensive is that they take you through numerous exercises in order to really hit home with the lessons. It is a much more interactive approach, and may be useful for those who find taking action on their finances a bit challenging.
The Millionaire Mind Intensive is focused on identifying your beliefs about money and wealth, deconstructing them, and then reconstructing them to move you towards financial freedom. Financial freedom can be defined many ways, but the way I would describe it is having a "principle" invested (in businesses, stocks, bonds, real estate, etc.) that produces enough monthly income / cash flow for you to live off of. Thus, you never HAVE to work again. You work because you choose to.
I have always been financially stable. I am a "saver". Although I have never had to worry much about money, I felt as though I really wasn't going anywhere, and I certainly wasn't rich. When I returned from the Millionaire Mind Intensive, I implemented the strategies they recommended. Within three months I was financially free! For myself, the money was already there, I just didn’t know how to make it work for me. Others may need to build the wealth as well, not a problem. I believe their program is very helpful for spenders, savers, and people who just don't even want to look at money.

Now, there are a few areas that I believe deserve some special attention.

Sales
They use a lot of scarcity, deep discounting, and at-seminar pricing to try to sell you on their other seminars. Come on you really didn't think you could go to a free seminar without a bunch of upsales, did you? Just keep a few things in mind...

• I did not see them run out of space on any of the seminars, plus, if they fill up, they will often add more
• If you are uncertain on purchasing a seminar, you can get the at-seminar pricing if you call them later in the week as well. Don't feel rushed or panicked. "If it is good today, it will be good tomorrow".
• If you do sign up for a seminar on-site, there is typically a ten day back-out clause available, be sure to read the contract carefully.
• Don't waste your money on all of the "stuff" they try to sell you (T-shirts, CD's), they are all available at every seminar if you MUST have them
• Payment options are available, and don't be afraid to negotiate with them to make it work for you. They are very flexible.

Staff
The Millionaire Mind Intensive, at least the one I attended, really did appear to run seamlessly. Although I am not a proponent of using volunteers in a profit-turning corporation, it looked as though the volunteers were used in a reasonable capacity. It was always easy to find a staff member or volunteer on hand to assist you, however, don't expect them to have the answer to your questions. They were all quite nice, and tried to be helpful, but in general there always seemed to be a lack of knowledge about...well...just about everything that had to do with the seminar and Peak Potentials. What time do we have to be back from lunch? How long is the seminar? What will the seminar entail? Do you have any other payment options? Almost every question was met with a "let me go find someone who can answer that for you". It was also odd to me that almost every staff member and volunteer that I spoke with had not even attended any of the other seminars! Thus, this blog has been created to answer a few of your questions.

Structure
They are not kidding when they say "intensive". Aside from brief lunch and dinner breaks, you are there all day from early in the morning until very late at night. I believe one of the days ran from 7am to 11pm. If you can, schedule to take the morning off after the seminar in order to catch up on your sleep a bit, and to give you time to process everything. You are let go for the meal breaks, and will need to find food in the surrounding area. Be sure to bring snacks and some water with you just in case. Every two to four hours they do give you a break for either 15 minutes, or for about an hour and a half for lunch and dinner. The substance of the program involved "lecture" style lessons intermixed with audience participation, group and individual exercises, and sales pitches. The sales pitches always came just before a break. This allows you the time to purchase the seminar or product they were selling immediately following the sales pitch. If you aren't that interested in what they are selling, the beginning of the sales pitch is a safe cue that a break is arriving, and you may be able to escape a bit early.

Let Go a Little
I am a skeptic, and was very concerned about their tactics. My guard was constantly up. Aside from trying to sell you on all of their seminars, their tactics are fairly benign. Don't be afraid to get involved in the lessons, and just have fun with it, even if it does seem a little (or a lot) hokey. Create a rule, or budget, with yourself before attending on how much you will allow yourself to spend, or if you won’t be spending anything at all. If you hold fast to this rule, you can enjoy the program and ignore the pressure.

Taking Home the Lessons
I do recommend that you attend the seminar with a loved one, a friend, or a roommate. It really helps to have those closest to you share the same understandings about money, wealth, and how to become financially free. I went with my spouse, and we are now both on the same financial page. After the intensive, make sure you spend some time talking about what lessons you took from it. Now this is the kicker, you must take action right away to set up your financial plan... and stick to it! At first, we though we were different. Harv Eker's lessons were useful, but there is no way that some of his suggestions would work for us. I was wrong. Use his "jar" system, but modify it work for you. Eventually you may change it, but it is an excellent way to get you on track, and to help to immediately implement some of the lessons you have learned. I manage my "jars" in QuickBooks, this works more efficiently for me. I have spoken with many people who feebly put the "jar" system into play, but didn't follow it. They have gone absolutely nowhere since the intensive! Don't just go home and go back to your old routine once the hype of the seminar wears off, do something!

Kids?
If your kids are making money in any way, this seminar could be a very useful money management starter for them as well. There were many teenagers and people in their early twenties at the seminar.

Follow-up – Life After the Millionaire Mind Intensive
Harv gave everyone a workbook to take home and use for 90 days, comprised of declarations and simple daily to do’s. The workbook activities take only about 10 min per day. In addition, he urged everyone to try out the “jar system”. Both of these programs cost you nothing. So, how many people did something with it? I followed the workbook for approximately 60 days, and then moved into my own daily program. I did follow the jar system, but have since modified it to fit better into my financial portfolio. I can say that my financial organization has gone up a notch, I have opened my mind up to investing, and I have created my financial freedom. I am the type of personality that really sticks with things though, and I have no problem in following a structure. To get a more realistic picture of the effectiveness of Harv’s program, I spoke with about 20 other individuals who went through Harv’s MMI. Most were people who were pleased enough with the MMI to purchase other seminars from Peak Potentials. The results? Not one of them managed to stick with the 10 minute a day workbook for more than a month, and not one of them had figured out how to implement the jar system into their life effectively. They were each excited by the concepts, but went home after the MMI, caught up on some sleep, and quickly fell back into their daily routine. Not one of them has become financially free since the program. Hmmm….

Seminar - Millionaire School

Overall Seminar Rating: C-

Who Should Attend: People looking for someone else to invest their money; Individuals willing to wait out lengthy sales presentations in order to learn a little about investing, taxes, and legal issues

Would I Attend Again: No

Cost: $1995, Lodging Packages available
Like most seminar prices, this can vary from place to place, and there are family discounts.

What Is It?
Millionaire School began as an educational seminar for individuals with money to invest, who are seeking to broaden their understanding of both traditional and non-traditional avenues. Additional tax and legal issues are addressed for better awareness. It is a 4-day seminar (school is a very strong word), with over 1000 attendees.

Immediate Words of Caution

• Harv covers various disclaimers and liability issues upfront; I believe this is understandable in an educational investing seminar. However, he lets the audience know that they will not be able to purchase into any investments mentioned until at least 72 hours following the seminar (SEC regulation I believe). Do not let this fool you, this is Peak Potentials, your wallet will still be pried open on many occasions!!! They skirt this issue by selling many expensive “educational” packages from Peak Potentials and from the speakers. The offerings include additional seminars, classes, CD’s, books, etc. Keep your wallet guarded and secure at all Peak Potentials events, regardless of any trust oriented comments.
• Keep in mind, there is always a backend with Peak Potentials. It is highly likely that they are receiving a commission on any programs, packages, and products sold during the seminar. Mr. T. Harv Eker is a world-class negotiator and will leave nothing on the table. In fact, one of our nightly assignments was to gamble $100 in the casino. There were approximately 1200 people in attendance. That would equate to $120,000, most of which was guaranteed to be gambled in the casino below. If I were Harv, I would have used this assignment to negotiate a nice rate on the extra large conference room we occupied in that casino. I am sure Harv wouldn’t think of this in advance though, would he?
• The Freedom Investment Club (FIC) is a primary focus of this seminar. Most presentations given by any of the FIC club management led into why you should invest in the FIC. Check our section on the Freedom Investment Club from the link at right for more information. If you consider investing in the FIC, make sure you do all of your homework first!

Brief Seminar Summary
The woman sitting next to me was furious! She couldn’t believe she had PAID good money to sit through a four-day sales pitch. Not to mention, she was signed up for other Peak Potentials seminars. She was a nice, sweet woman, but by the end of the first day, she was beginning to sound like a trucker! I didn’t see her at all by the end of the seminar. I am sure she had left angry, because it didn’t get much better. I, on the other hand, am a glutton for punishment, unwilling to leave something I paid for. At least so far…
Day two swooped in to save the seminar with a few real presenters on tax deductions and commodity investing. Day three could have been thrown out. About one hour of the entire ten-hour day provided worthwhile information. Beyond that, my notebook was completely bare and the sales build-ups were gaining steam. Day 4 was a mixed bag. They brought in a couple of decent speakers with corporate legal and business investing advice. Unfortunately, both were rushed through their presentations, in order to make room for lengthier going nowhere presentations from the FIC clan. Of course, Harv also needed a good chunk of sales time to pitch a few other Peak Potentials programs.
T. Harv Eker and Robert Riopel co-hosted the Millionaire School, but only presented for Peak Potential sales purposes. The following is a list of the speakers (I believe complete) from the Millionaire School Seminar, 2005:

1. Mike Lathigee – The program started with Mike’s amazing predictions from last year, and we listened on pins and needles as he made his predictions for this year. These predictions were the only notes I had taken from Mike’s presentations, yet he was the primary speaker for at least 20% of the entire seminar. Mike is the CEO for the FIC, and his attachment was obvious. His advice, lessons, and stories contained little noteworthy material, and always led back to “why you should join the FIC”.
2. Greg Habstritt – Greg is the Real Estate guy for the FIC Canada. He presented for about 20% of the entire seminar as well. He spoke on tax liens and deeds and offered a good piece on real estate cash flow analysis. Beyond this, he was a giant lead in for their tax liens and deeds program, his own coaching program, the FIC, and some condo sales in Alberta. This was an interesting one. We did a cash flow model on some properties in Alberta, at about 7pm one night. It looked like a great buy. What luck, the FIC Canada was going to purchase them! But wait, the next day, at about 2pm, Greg goes on stage and announces that since last night, they decided to pass these great deals onto us. They are sacrificing these obvious gains merely for our benefit, right? This whole scheme was definitely a little fishy. They in fact handed out pre-printed order sheets to reserve an entire property, which included a confirmation of a bank that was willing to lend up to, I believe, 65% of the purchase price. Amazing, they got a bank pre-approval on 26 4-plexes for unknown buyers in one night. Okay, my details could go on forever, just remember, If it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk…
3. Gavin Radzick – Gavin is the VP of Financial Services for the FIC. Gavin led a stimulating presentation. It went something like this: if all three indicators say green light for go, then buy the stock, but if any of the indicators say red for stop, don’t buy the stock. It seems so logical, but it seems we have to buy into his program to find these green and red lights from their proprietary indicators. Surprise, surprise, worthless!
4. Rick Rule – Rick was a Day 2 savior. Rick is an Investment Advisor in the US, and I believe he does advise the FIC Club US, but he didn’t mention it. He spoke more frankly about stocks and commodities.
5. Sandy Botkin – Sandy was very entertaining. Did I mention he is a lawyer and an accountant? Yes, he really was entertaining. He has worked for the IRS for years, and offered some great tips on managing your deductions. I will definitely be giving a few copies of his book, “Lower Your Taxes - Big Time”, to loved ones this Christmas. I found it on Amazon for just $11.53!
6. Hunter Dickinson, Inc. Representative – The name of this gentleman eludes me, but he spent the entire presentation working us up to investing in their Alaska Gold Mine project. It may be on the up and up, but there have been several “ghost” gold mining projects presented by companies out of Vancouver, BC. Investors beware!
7. Keith J. Cunningham – Keith is a regular Multi-Millionaire in the Self-Help circuit. A true Texan, he was un-intimidating yet bold, and very good at relating to the audience. He offered sound business investing advice with a low profile sales pitch for his own program.
8. Albert Koopman – I wavered on counting Albert as a presenter. He is the VP for the FIC “China Dragon Fund”, and he gave just a brief appearance and FIC talk.
9. Brent Todd – Brent is one of the Investment Advisors for the FIC Club Canada. He specializes in small and micro-cap investing. Too risky for my taste, but he seemed to love what he does.
10. Garrett Sutton – Garrett is an attorney out of Reno, NV and a top advisor in the self-help circuit. He mostly addressed the two states he works in, Nevada and Wyoming, but offered some good information nonetheless. Unfortunately, his talk was kept very, very short.

Near the end of the program, Harv let us know that several planned speakers were not allowed on stage, as they didn’t pass the SEC regulations in the US. However, the Canadian presenters did not need to meet these regulations, since they cannot legally trade in the US. Coincidentally, the only presenters who provided us with any real substance (Rick Rule, Sandy Botkin, Keith Cunningham, and Garrett Sutton) were, in fact, the SEC approved speakers. The other sales pitch presenters were all from Canada, and were primarily involved with the FIC.

Harv closed the seminar with a rather lengthy sales presentation for Peak Potentials. In fact, he had the nerve to offer next year’s Millionaire School for only $495, along with FREE attendance to the Secret’s of Influence (now the Master of Influence) Seminar. Way to rub a little salt in the wounds of already tapped out customers, who paid $1995 (or more) for Millionaire School, and $1495 for the Secrets of Influence! Believe me, from the comments I heard in the crowd, there were quite a few people who had already shelled out some big dollars for these two programs. Harv is a master salesman, but his customer service could use a little polishing.

Sales
I think this one has been thoroughly covered above.

Structure
The seminar started at 9am sharp each morning. Usually some warm up activities allowed stragglers to make there way in, but seating could be difficult to find. There was a morning and afternoon break each day, but they are brief. It is advised that you bring your own snacks. The program let out at varying times each night, but did not go as late as the MMI. Most nights we were looking at between 7pm and 9pm. As the program went on, and more sales tables were set up, tardy patrons were allowed, and people were given extra time at breaks to make inquiries, and of course, purchases.

Staff & Volunteers
The use of staff and volunteers was similar to the Millionaire Mind Intensive. They helped with hand-outs, ran the flow of the seminar, manned sales booths, etc. As with the MMI, they were unable to answer any questions. Unlike the MMI, staff disorganization was a little more noticeable. The atmosphere was casual, and it made for a somewhat unprofessional feel to the program. Not something I would expect from a “Millionaire School”.

Kids?
This seminar would be snooze time for the young ones. Let the kids stay at home if you choose to take on this program.

Follow-up – Life After the Millionaire School
I did not follow any of the investment advice or “predictions” offered in the seminar, and have not been worse off for it. I plan to purchase Sandy Botkin’s book “Lower Your Taxes - Big Time”, and have utilized Keith’s “questions to ask when looking at a new business investment” as a model for my own developing business. I have typed up my notes (just a few pages) from the seminar, and intend to reference the “business” portions in the future. Upon returning home, I realized that most of the investments they spoke of were far outside my risk tolerance. Since the seminar I have spent more time learning stock analysis and company research for wealth building and long-term investment. It would have been nice if they had gone into more detail on these subjects. I believe it would have been more practical for most of the attendees, but I guess that would have left them with less time for sales.
I had the opportunity at this seminar to speak with some people who had attended several of Harv’s seminars in the past. Each felt that the quality of Peak Potential’s programs was deteriorating with every passing year. I confirmed this for myself when I returned home to listen to the CD’s of a prior Millionaire School. The School several years earlier had over 20 different speakers, each with a wealth of information. This year’s Millionaire School, by my count, had just 10 speakers. As if this cut back weren’t enough, the majority of these speakers were connected either directly or indirectly to the Freedom Investment Club.

Seminar - Enlightened Warrior Training Camp

Warning: There is an extra fee for food and accommodations on top of the tuition already paid. This is not optional read your contract.

Cost: $2495, plus several hundred for food and lodging (deluxe as they are). This price is always changing depending on which program you have heard it quoted at, and how much the discount is. Also, Harv always offers a discount for bringing family members.

2005 Required Food and/or Lodging Rates:
Pemberton, BC - $395 Cdn (tent accommodation and meals)
Canmore, AB - $250 Cdn (meals only no accommodation included)
Ellenville, NY - Single Occupancy: $139 USD per room, per night* Double Occupancy: $199 USD per room, per night*
Beaumont, CA - Cottage: Double $549 USD, Triple: $465 USD Deluxe Inn : Triple: $510 USD, Quad: $499 USD, Five: $465 USD, Six: $455 USD

Overall Seminar Rating: C
Although some of the programs held merit, the poor staff training, cheap tactics for basic camp expenses (cleaning & transportation), as well as the lack of long term effects made me feel more like it was an overpriced summer camp for adults. Fun and challenging in some ways, frustrating in others, but in the end, didn’t do much for me, or the others I spoke with.

Who Should Attend: Families seeking a good bonding experience; People who love (or need) a good challenge

Would I Attend Again: No

What Is It?
The Enlightened Warrior Training Camp is one of Harv’s flagship programs; he has run it for several years. It is a smaller group program with around 200 attendees per camp. From what I understand, the purpose of the program is to help you break through your personal limitations, physically, mentally, and spiritually. This seminar goes beyond “intensive”.

The Camp – A Brief Summary

Day 1 (arrival):

We showed up at the camp in the evening. Upon arrival a rather disorganized registration assigns you to tents and cabins. If you don’t have a tent buddy upon arrival (2 to a tent) seek another free agent out when you arrive to avoid random assignment. Cabins are extra, and they are shared with several other people. I am not sure if they offer any additional comfort, aside from a solid roof and a floor. The program began in the late evening, and went until about midnight. It was mostly an intro to the week with some initial Peak Potentials warm up training. Warnings and rules are given at this time. Rob Riopelle was the speaker for the evening, and remained our “Harv” for the entire camp.

Days 2-5: The first night I didn’t sleep a wink! The remainder of the camp I averaged 3 to 5 hours per night. By the time I wound down from the evening events (a good hour) the snoring and giggling from very close neighboring tents began in harmony. To this day, I would like to know who had the energy to stay up 2 extra hours to tell stories and giggle! This made for a rough start each morning, but I certainly wasn’t alone. I think the snorers were the only ones who really slept. Each morning we were beckoned by a drum at 6am, yes I said 6am! The morning session was a warm up for the day. In reality, I am a morning person, but I felt that this morning session should have been totally thrown out. Rob told us stories about all the people who ranted about the wonderful early morning sessions, and how it really helped to start their day. I didn’t get the chance to speak with any of these inspirational people, but I did talk to a ton of people who would have rather slept in!

The early morning session was followed by breakfast, and a chance to shower. My advice, use this time to shower, it may be the only chance you have during the day. The morning meetings started at 9am sharp. They were typically training sessions, similar in structure to the MMI, just slightly different in content. An hour lunch came after these fairly relaxed morning events.

On day two, we were randomly divided into groups, otherwise known as “tribes”, of about 50 people. These were the groups we would spend our afternoon sessions with. The afternoon sessions are, well, intense to say the least. There are four different afternoon events, one for each day, and the tribes rotate between the events. For some people, every event pushed them outside of their comfort zone. For most people I spoke with, myself included, just one or two of the events really pushed us beyond our limitations. The remaining events were more like fun, somewhat challenging activities. The afternoon sessions are really the meat and potatoes of this camp for adults. Three of the programs were run by contracted out companies, and assisted by the Peak Potentials staff. One was just run by Peak Potentials staff. I was very impressed with each of the companies that Harv had contracted out, but much less so with his direct hiring. See below for my take on the staff situation. The programs are a secret, and I believe for one good reason, some people may chicken out!

As a side note, two of the afternoon sessions were off site from the camp. Rather than using all of that money we paid to go to the camp to rent a bus, Peak Potentials had us, the attendees, carpool in our own cars. Each caravan incident ended with a big problem, in our group, and in others. Not to mention, Peak Potentials did not reimburse any of the drivers for the gas or mileage in the two hours + of driving. Peak Potentials needs to reach into their budgets to provide basic transportation for their programs.

After the grueling afternoon sessions, dinner was always a welcome sight. You’re your group finished the afternoon program, determined how long your dinner break was. This is why I recommend the morning showers. After dinner, the evening sessions consisted of a small amount of training, followed by another event.

Nights two through four were very mellow events, luckily, as we were all turning into zombies by the night. Night five was another big challenge, the “peak” challenge if you will. It was hyped up incredibly, yet it seemed to be somewhat unmemorable in the end. It is either over hyped, overdone, or just not effective. I am not sure which, but it didn’t do anything special for me, or for any of the group-mates I kept in touch with. Maybe we were just too tired!

Late night snacks sent us all off to bed anywhere from 11pm to 2am. The entire seminar ends very late on day 5, so most people opt to stay the night. If you do not wish to, it is fairly safe to leave after the closing ceremony, you would recognize it when it hits.

Sales
Rather than being interspersed throughout the program, such as in the MMI, the bulk of the seminar sales are saved for the last day. They do prepare you for the sales, as Harv’s other programs are conveniently mentioned throughout the training sessions. However, the big build up seems to be saved for the last day, when you haven’t slept a wink, are nearly unconscious, and could quite literally be persuaded to do just about anything. Those of you who have already purchased the whole ball of wax aren’t safe either. Harv makes sure that each of his program groups offers a “new” program. There is always something big for you to buy, no matter what you have already purchased. If you are even slightly an impulse buyer, this could be a dangerous situation. Have your tent-mate hide your wallet before the last day.
If you like souvenirs, there is plenty available to buy throughout the Camp, CD’s, T-Shirts, Books, and not just Harv’s. Some of the contracted programs will have their own offerings. For the most part, these are inexpensive, low-pressure sales, and are definitely more suited to individual tastes.
Final Note: Although the sales were less intense than at the MMI, it was very irritating to sit through two hours of sales during a program, which I not only paid for, but also paid thousands of dollars for.

Staff
This was where our program hit more than a few bumps. From the lead presenters to the group staff, it was obvious that more training was required. The Warrior Camp was not as seamless as the MMI, in fact, the loose ends weren’t even sewn up. In line with the warrior motif of the camp, it appeared that the staff had been instructed to take a tough love approach. Most of the time, it came across as rude and arrogant. A few examples:

• On the first night Rob, threatened (yes threatened) that if we did not show up to the 6am morning program, we need not bother coming to breakfast. First of all, we paid for the food, above and beyond the seminar; second, I don’t think it is legal to withhold food from people, whether or not they slept through the morning program. This threat and several others, were re-iterated throughout the camp.
• The staff was untrained in first aid, and unable to recognize dangerous situations on several occasions.
• On more than one occasion, when something went wrong, the staff members would either get mad at us, the attendees, or they would get angry with their fellow staff or volunteers.
• Staff members were caught lying on several occasions, it seemed they felt this was the best way to get their point across.
• Staff members would get angry with people if they had to go to the bathroom at any time before or during an event.
• The staff members repeatedly cut in the food line in front of paying attendees. Twice, I waited in line for 15 minutes, only to have a staff member (different ones), come in out of nowhere and grab a plate, just as I was about to. I watched them do this to many other people.
• The staff approach was definitely not one of support, but more of treating grown adults like children. It was difficult to tell if this was a hiring or a training issue, but it appeared to be a very weak spot in the Warrior Camp.

Staff “Plants”
Another inappropriate use of staff was in “planting” staff members within each tribe. I think it is great if the Peak Potential’s staff members want to go through the company’s program, however, they should not be “hidden”. I asked the person in our group who turned out to be a staff member what they did for a living, and they lied to me. This person was definitely a ringleader in our group, giving instructions, persuading, etc. It also seemed a strange coincidence that each tribe had one or more staff members in it (a fact I discovered later). Other reports have confirmed several staff members “hidden” in the Millionaire Mind Intensives. These people may be just like you and me, there to learn. However, they do have a different energy. In addition to their own needs, they want to see the company succeed. This could easily alter their own behavior and encourage others to follow suit. You can draw your own conclusions on this, but it seemed very suspicious to me.

Volunteers
It was extremely disheartening to see the use of volunteers in this program. I was disappointed in the MMI to see volunteers being used in a for-profit corporation, but the Warrior Camp went far beyond what I believe is an ethical use of volunteers. Particularly, for a corporation that is earning tens of thousands of dollars from the camp and their labor.
Volunteers appeared to hold the level of responsibility that paid staff members did, but without the compensation. They seemed to work the full length of the camp (from early morning until late night), and were given duties that I don’t think anyone would typically volunteer for. Peak Potentials did not hire a cleaning staff for the event. Why should they when volunteers can clean the toilets? Every day and night, I watched the volunteers rotate turns in the latrines. The staff members may have pitched in, but I saw only volunteers.
But wait, it gets worse. I discovered that one of the core team members, a key note speaker teaching and selling Harv’s products, was an unpaid volunteer. If profiting from someone without compensating them doesn’t seem bad enough, I spotted him cleaning the toilets! Even if he wasn’t a volunteer, it doesn’t look good to see a keynote speaker cleaning toilets. Let’s just say credibility became an issue.
When I approached a staff member on this issue, they stated, “You do whatever it takes”. I’m sorry, but I don’t think taking my time off to clean toilets for a corporation making thousands of dollars off my labor is what it takes! So why do people volunteer? I don’t know, it is hard to pinpoint, but I almost did it myself. For some reason you feel compelled to, that it is somehow going to get you where you want to go. At this point, I feel as though this volunteering (whether intended or not) may be taking advantage of people who are at a confused point within their lives.

Food
Excellent! Since you pay additional for the food, it is catered. There was always a good variety of food, healthy yet filling and tasty, and the chefs were always there to whip up something specific for those on special diets. They catered breakfast, lunch, dinner, and late night snacks.

Kids?
There were several teenagers at the event, aged 12 and up. This is only a good experience for them if they are with family and loved ones while going through the camp. There were teenagers whose parents had sent them alone, and they definitely did not enjoy the experience as much as others. It can be a good strengthening camp for teens with self-esteem issues; I guess that would be most teens!

Extra Advice
If you do go, bring a watch, snacks, and extra blankets. The nights can be cold, the schedules are tight, and some food from home is always a good idea. Not to mention, most people spend the night on Day 5, since the program ends so late, but there is no breakfast supplied in the morning.

Follow-up – Life After the Enlightened Warrior Training Camp
The quick connections you make with people at the Warrior Camp can create a good support network in your everyday life. However, as with most commitments these days, the social network does begin to fade and fragment within a few months. I did have the opportunity to follow-up with about a dozen people from my “social network” approximately one to three months after the program. All, including myself, experienced an initial high upon returning home (very brief), followed by an intense need to catch up on sleep. Once “real life” had a chance to return, every single one of us experienced what we each described as depression. For some it was a big crash, for others just a “what do I do with my life now” phase. Although my career and personal life have been moving forward nicely since the camp, it seems to be at the same rate as before the camp. In fact, when I look back, I view the Warrior Training as three lost weeks of productivity in my life. One week for the seminar, one week as a sleepy zombie, and one week of depression.

Seminar – Train the Trainer

Overall Seminar Rating: C-

Who Should Attend: Trainers who need to up the sales potential in their seminars, workshops, presentations, classes, etc.

Would I Attend Again: No

Cost: $2995 (once again, prices do vary), Food & Lodging Packages available

What Is It?
Train the Trainer Certification is a 4 ½ day seminar focused on their top sales pitch “How to earn $20,000 a weekend or more!” Approximately 240 people attended the 2005 seminar. Essentially, they teach you most of the techniques they use to sell abundant products and services at their seminars. Now this program was VERY enlightening.

Seminar Summary
The program started on a Sunday evening. We were promptly handed a binder each, it was very thin. Inside it had a couple intro pages, seven pages of sample Harv advertisements, some blank paper for notes, and two comment forms requesting our praise to use in their advertising. There were an additional twenty pages, which we will call the “substance” pages. These substance pages were in an outline type format with tons of white space, in fact, several had as few as 20 words per page! I thought to myself, maybe they will be giving us more pages to insert during the next 50+ hours of training, or maybe these are just outlines and we will be filling in the information. Nope, this was it, the entire substance of the program. Okay, so maybe that means this seminar will be more about practicing our presentation skills…that would still be great! This was wishful thinking on my part. The night continued with icebreakers and Peak Potential’s “training”. It didn’t end until after midnight, and with the energy from the program, I wasn’t able to fall asleep until after 2am. Yet another exhausted start to their programs...

Our lead trainer was Robert Riopel, once again. However, Blair Singer, another name on the self-help circuit and a friend of Harv’s, ran the program for about 1 ½ days.

Blair explained the difference between context, setting the stage, and content, giving information. He explained that a good (sales) presentation is about 85% context and 15% content. Based on the number of doodle drawings in my notebook, and the lack of organized notes, I would say that he delivered on this very well himself. Blair did provide some excellent information on stage positioning, finding your topic, relating to your audience, pushing people to the point of decision (Peak Potentials is great at this one), and how to field questions. Unfortunately, his stories and lead-ins often ate up as much as 1 ½ hours at a time. Blair also led us in a great “role playing” activity on the second night, which once again kept everyone awake until well past midnight.

Rob took back over after Blair departed, and was the trainer for the remainder of the program. Rob taught us their tactics for getting venues to speak at, and getting “butts in seats” as they so eloquently put it. He also explained their funnel of products for keeping customers in the sales pipeline. Rob also spent a good deal of time expanding on Harv’s magic “template”. It is a list of about 20 steps that they believe every presenter should follow in order to sell their product in the end. It seems to work for them, but it is definitely a tad pushy. Many people, including myself, would want to tone it down quite a bit. Also, Rob emphasized that you should never sell books at your seminars, because they earn you virtually no money, unless of course they are “Secrets of the Millionaire Mind”. I took this one with a grain of salt, since it was an obvious plug for their network-marketing program.

Rob also led us into nights 3 and 4 (although he didn’t run them), where each person had to perform a “breakthrough” exercise. It was not only a rather embarrassing task, but it was also filmed, for no particular reason. In my opinion, it was a waste of time, and simply served to keep people awake until past midnight, and make them feel empowered, yet humiliated.

It seems that the quality offered in Harv’s Train the Trainer program used to be far superior. I listened to some of Harv’s earlier CD’s (from a few years ago) and he states that his Train the Trainer course only has about 20 attendees, who receive one on one training and attention. This is a far cry from the 240 to 1 ratio we had at this Train the Trainer. Like many unfortunate companies, the quality may be declining with the growth.

Get Some Sleep!
If I had just one recommendation for this program, I would say skip the night programs, get some dinner, and head to bed. Peak Potential’s claims that they teach you to make your own decisions, not give into pressure, self-empowerment, etc. Yet, Rob loves to use threats, conditioning, and peer pressure to get people to follow their programs. In this particular seminar, he states that if anyone tries to skip out on nights three and four, they will post their names up on the wall (threat), and use the attendees to track them down (peer pressure). Amazingly enough, they actually did it! I wish I had been as bold as some people who simply told them they weren’t going to the event. Their names were simply taken off the list. There was no real punishment; it was just a scare tactic as usual. After all, the attendees paid for the program, they can’t be forced to do anything against their will.

The lack of sleep really began to take its toll on everyone by day four. Each of the four nights had run past midnight. Attendees were falling asleep at breaks, walking around like zombies, many of them lacking showers! I also noticed a disturbing trend of wills breaking and logic flying out the door. People were acting a bit foolish, and doing absolutely everything Rob told them to without question. These were intelligent people, mostly professionals, many wanting to make a difference, but looking for direction. As an off topic example of the exhaustion, on the 4th day, Rob told someone with a question to stand up, and about a dozen other people around the room stood up for no reason.

Out of curiosity, I surveyed several people on their sleep. They each had trouble winding down from the program, as did I, which meant an additional hour or two before sleep was even possible. From there, the nightly sleep ranged from zero to six hours. The worst part was, most of these people were driving home at night and back in the morning. Studies equate less than 6 hours of sleep in a night to driving under the influence of alcohol. Ethical issues aside; sleep deprivation isn’t healthy or safe!

On the last day, I also saw a side of Rob, which was quite frankly, disturbing. He started bouncing around chanting “money, money, money” over and over again. If this wasn’t bad enough, he then jumped into doing his little “ch-ching” dance. He got so excited that he had everyone stand up and do it, twice!

There was also something about the schedule, which I noticed as odd. It may not have been intentional, I can’t say. The first three full days of the program we had a break at around 11am, and lunch at around 1pm or even later at times, then we would have a 10 minute break in the afternoon, and they would let us out for dinner sometime after 7pm. Most people I spoke with had a heftier breakfast in order to keep until the late lunch. But on the last day, we broke at just after 11am for lunch, and they gave us an “assignment” to do over the lunch break. Like most other people there, I wasn’t hungry yet. I didn’t eat, but unlike most I did get some lunch to have later. I watched, and most people not only skipped lunch, but also were franticly working on the assignment. After lunch, we only had a brief break, and the program continued on with some training until the early evening. I don’t know about you, but when I have hardly slept in four days, and I haven’t eaten for 10 hours, I tend to not think very clearly. Peak Potentials heavy program sales took center stage in the evening, immediately following the training.
I must be honest, for me this seminar resembled a rather cult-like experience.

Sales
Come on, it’s a Peak Potential’s program; of course there are sales! Don’t let the title fool you. Mr. Riopel does an impressive job in demonstrating the power of their sales technique first hand. Although I still disagree with many of their tactics (especially the ones they didn’t mention), he knows how to get those checkbooks and credit cards waving. Train the Trainer is an excellent breeding ground for selling future seminars. First off, there is Train the Trainer II. That’s a given. There was Harv’s latest offering, a leadership related seminar. A few seats were opened up for the Master of Influence program (formerly Secret’s of Influence) this year and next. Finally, to top them all, if you want to be a Peak Potential’s Trainer (that covered about 80% of the room), you have to take all of Harv’s courses in order to qualify. What a plug for their super deluxe, fully loaded, Quantum Leap Titanium Package! Whew… I think it is safe to say that the back end for Peak Potential’s at this seminar is a sizable one.

Blair Singer does a good job in using Harv’s discounting technique to sell his package. Although Blair still appeared a little green with Harv’s methods, the cash register was ringing. Just as with all other Peak Potential’s programs, once you catch on that you have been suckered into yet another sales presentation, you can be assured that a break is next on the agenda. If you have no interest in emptying your wallet, avoid the temptation, and step out early for a longer break.

Structure
Like many other Peak Potential’s events, this program started in the evening with an introduction, and the very first night went all the way until midnight. The program started at 9am sharp each morning. Unfortunately, a majority of the attendees were from the local area, and had to commute to the location. The mornings were usually typical Peak Potential’s training style: Robert talks, we respond when he tells us to, we take some notes, we listen to “class shares”, etc. It is a lot of setting the scene, filled in with just a little substance. There was typically a break mid-morning, except for the last day (see comments above). Lunch was usually a bit later, around 1 or 2pm, and ran for 1 hour and 15 to 30 minutes. You could purchase their meal package to eat at the hotel, or walk to neighboring restaurants. The afternoons usually involved some training with a few small group exercises worked in. Dinner hit around 6 or 7pm, with the class back in an hour and a half for some “crazy” nighttime activity. These events kept people up until at least midnight every night, and often much later.

Staff & Volunteers
The staff held their usual roles, handouts, sales booths, guarding the doors, not answering questions, etc. A couple of core team members were more involved in running events. Oddly enough, I received an email before the event asking if I would volunteer at it. It seems they may have abused the volunteers too much at this point! I thought it was odd that they were contacting people who had paid to attend the seminar. Particularly since their volunteer policy states that you must have already gone through the program before you are eligible to volunteer at it.

Kids?
There were a few teens at this seminar. This program may help to break teens out of their shells a bit, just be sure to keep them out of the snake oil business.

Follow-up – Life After Train the Trainer
I was floored by how few people took action following this program, these were supposed to be aspiring trainers! It seems Peak Potential’s usual pump-em and dump-em style had its usual effect. There was a very large list of names and emails, at least 50, of people who lived in the local area, and were interested in getting together to practice presenting. It would be a support group for trainers, as suggested by both Blair Singer and Robert Riopel. People were jazzed about it. Yet, a follow-up with the ringleader of this list, just a few weeks after the seminar, revealed that only a few people had even responded to him!

Sales is my weakest point, so their “template” did offer me a few ideas. However, their marketing said we would be “Designing a powerful program from A-Z”. I think they forgot B through Y. I was expecting the opportunity to practice and perfect our presentation skills in front of a group. That certainly didn’t happen, so I am creating my own network group, for brainstorming, practicing presentations, and sharing ideas.

A short film to consider when attending a Peak Potentials Event

Is Peak Potentials Losing Trainers?

Is Peak Potentials losing trainers now? Is a job open for one of those hungry volunteers? Has Harv figured out how to do the sales presentations spending even less money?

If David Wood is still watching this blog, we would love to know the scoop!!!

Anonymous said...
"I hear super trainer David Wood left Peak Potentials. His name was deleted from their web-site as a trainer also. Does anyone know why he quit? Was it the killer travel schedule and thus his inability to be with his family? Or was there a rift behind the scenes? Please post if you have any info on where David went to work or if he just decided to retire from training(which I doubt)?! He's too good!"

David Woods Blog (Last Update December 16, 2005)
http://davidwoodtraining.com/

Bio still on Peak Potentials website
http://www.peakpotentials.com/new/media/bio-dave.html

Trainers still listed on Peak Potentials website
T. Harv Eker
Robert Riopel

Another Experience with Train the Trainer

I just returned from the Train the Trainer in NJ. I took your advice and bowed out from the evening events to get some sleep. VERY glad I did.

By Wednesday I was starting to feel kind of drained from the 9am-7pm hours, and by Friday I was feeling exhausted. Am now suffering from a head cold and I thinking it was due to the seminar's grueling regiment.

As bad as I felt, I couldn't imagine how the other people were feeling who actually did attend the evening's events - they seemed tired and slap-happy.

As for cutting out on the nights, I couldn't believe how much static I received from people when they heard I wasn't going to do it. I had to hold my ground over and over again while being bombarded with what I like to call "Seminar Speak" - i.e., "What is holding you back from reaching your full potential?" or "Where else in your life do you make excuses? How you do one thing is how you do everything..." (which I think is bull-crap, btw).

I also didn't like Rob's style and by Wednesday night was very tired of being yelled at. He spoke often about how the seminar leader is managing the energy in the room, but he wasn't "managing" it as much as he was trying to "create" it, in my opinion.

By Friday morning, I was pretty upset that I had spent so much time and money. Yes, I learned a lot, and in the afternoon on Friday when they put all the pieces together and have you do your 30 minute seminar to a small group, I felt it was all worthwhile... but could have been done in 3 days instead of 5.

My 2 cents.

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Posted by Gadzooks to Inside Peak Potentials Training at 12/05/2006 12:44:22 PM

The Sales Drill with Peak Potentials Training

The price reductions and limitations on enrollments are enticements to get you into action.

In my own case they work for me. I'm thankful that I signed up for some of the follow-on courses that I attended.

Now that I know the drill the effect has lessened. In fact, my wife and I will look at each other and describe each of the steps in the process. I think this works once or twice. After that the effect lessens.

Here is how it typically goes:

There is usually 20 minutes or so of lecture on the course and the value that it offers.

You get offered several things. Each are priced separately.

The prices are totaled. The sum total is a big number. Nothing you feel you could afford.

Then there are a few rounds of price reductions. You start to feel that 'this is a bargin.' (Minds are fallible, aren't they?)

You might even be told that the price is below their costs.

People at this point get up out of their seats and start signing up.

Then you are told that there are a limited number of seats. Here's where some in the audience start to panic.

Harv actually said at one of these events to his staff, "Let them all sign up. We'll just reduce the number of slots in Orlando." (I was in LA at the time.)

I actually took my time once. I asked the volunteer at the back of the room if there were still seats open. She looked at me as if she didn't understand the question, took my form, verified my credit card number and registered me.

My wife called after a course once. She was offered the 'in seminar price' and never had a discussion about the number of available slots.

What disappoints me about this is that it appears to be disingenous. It makes me feel that Harv and the other leaders are being opportunistic and inauthentic.

Millionaire School in Los Angeles

I attended the recent Millionaire School in Los Angeles. Similar agenda.

I signed up for a few courses. There is a 72 hour cancellation policy. After that they are very strict about not cancelling. I have a frient who is not able to go to one that cost $7,500. He is going to have to pay a $2,500 cancellation fee. The reason stated: "we no longer promote the program which means cancellations represent a loss of revenue for us."

This for a course that sold out to 200 people at $7,500 each. I'm told that Harv gets 50% of that. That would mean $750,000 for the course instructor. It doesn't seem like $2,500 is much of a loss. It sure doesn't fit with my image of people who are trying to empower others to create wealth.

Several of the speakers were promoting courses about trading commodities, stock options and currency based on technical analysis. That seemed reckless to me. It is very risky. All three of the presenters claimed to be making a living doing this and getting returns as much as 100 to 400% per month.

Comments on Enlightened Warrior Camp

"Hi Insider,
I am curious as to why you don't describe what happens at Warrior Camp. It's really oppressive. If you enjoy intimidation, people checking up on your attendance, being threatened with expulsion if you can't attend something or you want to sit out some activity, or if you want your kid subjected to violent activities, you should definitely attend this camp. If not, and if you see something wrong with this, don't attend Warrior Camp!!! And be aware that most of the chumps who wrote the above comments are just "plants" from Peak Potentials. Peace. "

Great Comments and Advice keep pouring in

I want to say I read this comment and thought it was great. I did learn a lot about myself from attending these seminars but more from myself not the speaker. Thanks for the advice on attending the MMI and getting the same offers after the seminar.

One comment I need to make is that Warrior Camp was more like a prision camp with our speaker. He got the staff to chase after someone who tryed to go to the bathroom during the sales part.

"Seems a lot of folks who are complaining on this site have missed the most basic lessons.

Talk about the mind frick taking you out! This web site is one long mind frick rant. Quite fascinating!

I didn't realize sleep deprivation was a sales tactic. When I saw people running to the back of the room at MMI to buy workshops, I just thought they must have tons of money they aren't particularly attached to.

I didn't buy a thing while I was there. I also didn't bring a credit card.

BIG TIP: don't bring a credit card and know that you can always get the sale prices on the phone.

I stayed for a lot of the selling in MMI because I was fascinated to see a master marketer in action. It was really something-- like watching a great athlete. I don't have that skill but it is interesting to watch someone do it well. When I got tired of the sales pitch, I just closed my eyes and meditated.

Eckhart Tolle says this interesting thing about "waiting". If you think you're waiting for something (traffic, a line up, an appointment) then you're not in the now-- the present moment, you're not here. When someone says to him "sorry I kept you waiting", he says "I wasn't waiting." He wasn't. He was being. If you can't handle sitting through this stuff, then you've got some major issues in your life. Show up. Reality is what you make it. Your response to a situation creates your reality or your experience-- not the situation. How you chose to react is the key. Did you learn that lesson, Inside Investigator? It is a powerful one.

I found half an hour of selling twice a day a bit much (though I did learn something each time) but I was at a free workshop that changed my life! Big whoop.

When I went to Warrior Camp, I was curious to see if there would be as much selling. There wasn't, I kept track. It was half an hour out of 70 hours! Not so bad. Guess what I did during that time? I went to pee!

More advice: Get a backbone. Pack a lunch. Don't think about peeing all the time and you won't have to go. Maybe, just maybe, all that focus on sleep, eating, peeing, maybe that's your ego trying to stop you from changing--taking you out of the experience. Umm, fear anyone? Wait a minute... didin't Harv say that in the first 15 minutes of MMI?

If you found MMI too difficult because of "sleep deprivation" and food breaks, then don't go to Warrior Camp. You won't be able to survive. Which is too bad. It was one of the most thrilling weeks of my life. "

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Great advice from Lisa G

Lisa said...

Wow...either the majority of the people on this site are easily persuaded or they have no balls whatsoever.

I just returned from the MMI and I loved it. Not only did I love it and learn ALOT, but I didnt spend a dime. The money manangement tools are excellent. Did I buy the jars? Hell no! Ive got plenty of jars at home. Geez, I havent even read the damn book yet and I probably wont. But I can tell you this, I came away with alot this weekend. I learned some very valuable lessons about my relationship with money. And sure I had to sit through a few sales pitches but I didnt mind. Dave Wood was an excellent facilitator and did his promotions with class.

Anyone who feels they have been deprived of breaks and sleep needs a reality check. This was easily the best seminar Ive EVER attended. I thought the length of the sessions and the breaks were quite reasonable.

Anyone who would complain about the sales pitches and the lack of sleep and who would use that as an excuse for being broken down to buy, seriously needs to get some spine. That is NOT how a Millionaire Mind works. If you were duped, then you are merely a fool who was easily seperated from his money. Lesson learned.

Lisa G.
Norwich, ON

More Information on the Millionaire Mind Evening

Here is the latest on the Millionaire Mind Evening. WOW!!! They are now charging $397 for "premium seating" (see Premier Seating Tip Off for more details) . Thanks Anonymous for the new details.

Anonymous said...
"Thank you to all who have experienced this and posted their truth...I attended the MM 3 hr intro this evening in Lauderdale. Ofcourse, i found out about this from a seasoned network marketer who is trying to turn me onto a new company she just got into. While I did learn some things, I noticed the sheer manipulation at the end of the evening and the fear tactics used. Wow. I'm SO thankful that I've had experiences where I was duped in the past by a bigtime NLP practioner in a network marketing company who used similiar practices. I give my SINCERE THANKS to those of you who have posted your truths here for the innocent people who come along and are swept into the currents. WAtch the TAKE AWAY at the end of the evening, where they literally lock you in the room...saying that "if you walk out now, you'll have to pay 1295 for the seminar." Then they try to sell you premium seats "the energy is stronger in the front of the room". But "seats are limited to only the first 17"...so the people start running to the table then after they get there he says and "you get the special premium seating for 397 dollars!!"...I was like whoa...so glad I didn't get sucked in to that one. Again, b/c of my experience in the past, I saw this manipulation CLEAR AS DAY and was able to walk out without feeling panicked, like I was missing out. It was interesting to see how people do get swept up...yes, you might learn a thing or two, but KEEP YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT...that's all I can say. Good luck to all. Thanks Inside Investigator...you're awesome to expose that one!"

Another persons information regarding the MME and MMI

As I said, these tickets are ALWAYS free - the 3 hour evening, AND the 3 or 4 day Millionaire Mind Intensive, otherwise known as the MMI. The trick is that you go to the 3 hour free evening and are offered the 3 day intensive 'Free' (or are offered the 3 day intensive free right off the bat, as this one is doing), in order to get you hooked in to spend the BIG money! THAT'S where you are very badly sleep deprived, break and rest deprived, and where they get you so broken down that you are ready to sign up for the expensive SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLAR seminars! Folks, they make you feel like you just HAVE to sign up, or else your life will not be worth even existing! Is THAT how you really want to feel about yourself and your life?

Like I said, the only thing you will learn at these seminars - both the free ones AND the multi thousand dollar ones that you will be enticed and tricked into signing up for is the exact same thing that you will learn in any of Napoleon Hills books, or Robert Kyosaki's (who unfortunately is also getting into the 'multi bucks seminar bandwagon', but just buy his books - they still offer good info, and MUCH more than you'll get from attending every last seminar that T Harv Eker ever gives!).

Folks, this is all just a sales tactic gimmick to get you hooked into spending thousands upon thousands of dollars that you may or may not have to spend or lose. DON'T FALL FOR IT!!!

And to you who are offering these 'free' seminar tickets - get a real job, or if you have one, keep it. It's well known in the industry that you WON'T get the big commissions that they promised you for getting suckers hooked in. This is just like MLM (Multi Level Marketing) - only the ones at the top make any money. You're just another sucker that they've got hooked in. Yes, there's a sucker born every minute. Unfortunately, you're just one of them. Sorry to break the bad news to you.

(from someone who's been around the block a few times, and who also spent more than $15,000 on T Harv Eker's seminars and have nothing to show for it except egg on my face)

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Why is It So Hard to Find REAL Information on Peak Potentials?

After (I wish it had been before) I had purchased seminars from Peak Potentials, I researched for information on them, and it was quite a dig. I was able to find a few fluffy feel good commentaries and blogs, as well as some negative commentary from people who left incredibly early in the MMI because it was just too freaky. Yet factual reviews from those who had been through the paid programs were very hard to come by. I discovered a few possible reasons for this:

20% Breakage
According to Peak Potentials, approximately 20% of the people who purchase seminars with them, do not even show up! They told us this was a typical breakage rate, but for programs that cost two grand on up, it seemed a bit odd too me. However, I did feel a desire myself to just not attend. I was a bit embarrassed by purchasing on such an impulse. I am the type of person who will wait 3 weeks for a coupon to show up in the paper before I will purchase a $50 item. Purchasing several $2000 programs in one weekend was more than a bit out of my character. This is just a theory, but I think those who are disappointed with the programs, or choose not to attend, are embarrassed and would rather forget the purchase.

The Pump and Dump
Peak Potentials does an excellent job in bringing you to a “level 10”, during their 3 to 6 days of high energy, sleep deprived training. Unfortunately, every single person I spoke with, this led to a week or more “crash” immediately following the program, plus a week or more of mild to moderate depression (more like a level 2). Once this whole roller coaster passed, they found their lives to be back to normal (not a level higher than before as promised), and they had pretty well forgotten about the program. I can’t lie; I did the same thing. I had to force myself to remember what happened, to write about it, when all I really wanted to do was get back to my old life. I felt it was too important to put some factual information out there, so others wouldn’t feel quite so lost.

Network Marketing aka "Ambassador Program" – This is a biggie!
Peak Potentials utilizes a huge network-marketing program to fill their seats. Just like other network marketing programs, the Peak Potentials Ambassador Program offers a 10% commission to those who “refer” other purchasing customers to their seminars. Peak Potentials does an excellent job in making this offer sound too easy and lucrative to pass up. Therefore, most of the feel good stories out there are people who want you to use their referral code to purchase things from Peak Potentials. This open to the public network-marketing scheme keeps their bad press down, and the number of promoters for their programs up.

Referral codes are passed on in three primary ways:

1. Someone gives you their referral code directly
2. Someone “gifts” you free tickets to the Millionaire Mind Intensive, with their referral code on it
3. Someone “gifts” or sells you a “Secrets to the Millionaire Mind” book with their referral code in the back

Does the program work? I am unable to say for sure. I used a friend’s referral code upon purchasing from Peak Potentials, and to this day, my friend has not received a dime. I have spoken with a few other people who are signed up with Ambassador Program, who have made referrals or given away books, and not a penny was made by any of them. So obviously there are some holes in their program. I would love to hear how someone has made this program work for them. It must work effectively for some people.

The Ambassador Program is also a little trick Harv used to get his book on the best seller list. He sells people in his programs mass quantities of his books (or includes them as bonuses to his seminar packages) on the premise that they will make loads giving away the books with their referral code in the back. He doesn’t want people to sell them, as this would compete with their own book sales.

Like attracts Like
I was very surprised to find out how many network marketers attend Harv’s seminars. A large portion of the attendees are involved in network marketing, and thus take a great interest in Harv’s Ambassador Program. They know better than to put any negative press out there. It is all roses, health, wealth, and happiness, right?

Peak Potentials is highly involved with network marketing to get people to their seminars. Just like other network marketing programs the Peak Potentials Ambassador Program offers a 10% commission for everything purchased from your referrals. Peak Potentials gives you sign up sheets at every seminar so you can get free tickets to for the Millionaire Mind Evening automatically delivered to you to hand out. Secrets of the Millionaire Mind book packages are offered as either a free bonus with another purchase or at a quantity discount. The incentive is to be able to gift tickets or books with your referral number and make passive income. In essence, Peak Potentials uses network marketing in every way possible to get you to invite everyone you know to the Millionaire Mind program. Since people hang out with similar people this allows them to reach an targeted audience quite quickly.

More questions answered about Train the Trainer

Vin said...

Hello..

Thank you for your piece. My wife and I found it to be very
helpful and an interesting different perspective on the MMI and Peak
Potentials.

You see, my wife and I just finished the MMI in Secaucus, NJ
Dec.1 to
Dec.4, 2005. We were very excited while we were there, but at the
same time
disappointed by the time spent pushing the other seminars, always
as you stated
just before the breaks. We were also leary/weary about the
length of the MMI and
the lack of sleep. When they say intensive they really
mean it. You see we
bought the Platinum Level of the Quantum Leap Program 2
hrs. after the weekend
ended, and part of it didn't feel right. After my
wife came across your blog, I
initially became upset and defensive because
we just spent 13.5k. After reading
more of what you had to say and realizing
that you weren't tearing it all down
but giving what seemed to us as an
objective perspective (having gone to a
number of the seminars yourself)
pointing out the positives as well as the
negatives, we re-thought the
entire weekend and experience. We decided to cancel
the Quantum Leap program
at this time, knowing that if we go to another seminar
we'll have the
opportunity to buy it then if we so choose. We just didn't like
all that
pressure. Speaking of more pressure, we got a follow-up call from
Martin,
the person cancelling the Quantum Leap, who was helpful but still trying
to
sell us another combination of seminars (much like the 2 for 1 they were
pushing at the weekend). I told him that I didn't like the pressure there
and
waan't appreciating it here. We hung up with him stating that I had a
deadline
of this friday (Dec. 16th) or I wouldn't be able to get the deal
and would have
to pay the standard price. That leads to my question here.

Getting to my
point, I'm teacher and a psychotherapist and am
looking to offer more along the
lines of training with my clients and am
looking to affect a larger population
than I do right now. From what you
wrote about "Train the trainer" and what Rob
spoke about, I'm not sure that
I would be getting anything more out of it than
the marketing piece, and my
focus is not just on that and not on making 20k a
weekend. My focus would be
primarily on providing value and good information to
my clientele. But I get
a bad taste in my mouth regarding the push for just
getting "butts in the
chairs".
Is the "template" worth going to the seminar
for? I get the
impression from what you wrote about this seminar that it's not.
Could you
please respond to this question for me either here or at my e-mail
address
of vin1956@yahoo.com?

We did, however, receive much benefit from
MMI
and the overall mood and attitude was very uplifting. We are excited about
applying the different accounts/jars to our finances and see what happens!

Well, my wife and I would like to thank you again for the time you took
to post this blog and for helping us to rethink the whole experience and
just
shelling out all that money for the Platinum Quantum Leap Program.

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon, preferably before this Friday,
Dec. 16th.

Take care,
Vin

Inside Investigator said...

Hi Vin,

I appreciate your honest feedback, and can directly relate to
your concerns. I would love to just give you the template, but there could be an
obvious copyright infringement on doing so. There are a few ways I feel you
could benefit from the Train the Trainer, and a few reasons why I might
recommend you look elsewhere. Hopefully the information I can provide you with
is useful. To start with, the following is a list of lessons I found helpful
from Train the Trainer:

Stage Positioning - Where to stand to keep your
audience engaged. I have not done a significant amount of research on this
issue, but I am almost certain that this subject could be found in several other
books and seminars.

Involving the Audience - It makes sense to engage
your audience with questions, have them do written/expressive activities to
share, acknowledging them with appreciation for their contributions, and
physically move with regularity to not get stuck in the boredom of seminars. I
felt these were very useful techniques when taken in their purist form, and when
tailored to my own style.

Sales - As information providers we do often
forget that not only do we need to be paid for our services, but we also do want
to expand our message to affect more people. Although this can obviously be
taken to a more abusive point, it is helpful to understand that it is okay to
sell to people on your seminars, programs, and products. It is true that you do
need more people in your room in order to affect them. That being said, I
believe it should be done much more tactfully, and I have witnessed some guest
speakers do it with grace. During presentations you may often hear reference to
other company offers at appropriate times. For example...."when you are deciding
what type of seminars you want to put on, you should always identify your target
audience. We do have another program that addresses 'finding your target
audience', but for now we will assume you already have a group in mind". Period!
Then at the end of your presentation, you casually mention "if anyone is
interested in any other programs we have to offer (such as the seminar mentioned
earlier), we have a table set up at the back with more information, and where
you can sign up" or "if anyone would like to hear more about our xyz seminar,
then you are welcome to stay for a 10 minute informational session". This was
very unintrusive, I felt, and still led to a high level of satisfied repeat
customers for many presenters. They do touch on these methods during the Train
the Trainer, but add in many more high pressure sales techniques which may or
may not work. I think it is up to the individual to decide what they are
comfortable with. I do not like the idea of using seminar time that people have
paid for to further sell them, but casual mentions without extensive detail does
seem like an excellent way to place the idea in people's heads.

Provide
Free Information - This is something I have embraced whole-heartedly. If you
give people free information, they trust you, consider you to be an expert, and
want to learn more from you. Not to mention the side benefit, you are
immediately helping people. Newsletters (paper and internet), websites with
useful pieces of information, brief radio interviews or announcements, etc.,
with just a casual mention in the end of who you are and where you can be found.
No further advertising of yourself is needed. I love this technique and it seems
to already be working well for one business area I am working on.

These
were the areas of awareness that I obtained from the Train the Trainer which I
can recall off the top of my head, and plan to directly utilize. Now, the
following is a list of the primary reasons I would hesitate to recommend Train
the Trainer to my close family and friends:

The Style - It is still 4
full days and one additional evening of sleep-deprived heavily sales oriented
"seminar". In my opinion, the "real" content could have been condensed into one
day. There is a lot of justifying, sales pitches, unrelated activities, and
going-nowhere time filler talk that extends the program to an unreasonable
length. This costs the attendees significant time, sleep, and money. The
financial burden includes meals out (even if you are local, there is not enough
time to go home) and travel time in addition to the hefty seminar price tag.

Not Presentation Ready - I assumed that we would have a chance to really
present in front of others, and time to put portions of our own presentation
together. Many attendees really have no idea what they even want to present on,
so it is really about the "template". Unrelated ice breaker activities took up
all the time that could have been used to practice presenting your own seminar.

The Template still needs Customization - They claim that the template is
all you need. Your actual content is not important. Although I will surely find
some opponents on this one, I definitely disagree. Although everyone could take
some good points from it (like the involving the audience and sales sections
mentioned above), the template is definitely heavy on the sales side and low on
providing information. This to me would provide a seminar that may be worth the
content, but not worth the time it took. Also, each person has their own style.
It was obvious when several people tried to follow the template that it did not
flow at all naturally. They needed to create their own style. Flow is essential
to a good presentation.

There are Many Other Options Out There - There
are tons of great books and seminars out there on how to present, speak, draw an
audience, etc. I wish I had more specific workshop experience to recommend, but
the Peak Potentials seminars did wipe out my "education" jar for the year. This
brings me to another important point. Their seminars are on the expensive side
and take a lot of time. In my opinion, small half day seminars for a fraction of
the cost, that focus on specific areas you wish to address, would be money
better spent. In addition, books are an excellent learning tool for only $20 a
pop, can be read on your own time, and there are a ton of them out there on
every subject. I recommend www.amazon.com the most, as the reviews they provide
are very helpful, and the free shipping and low cost books save me a trip to the
big block book stores. I have in fact been reading several related books, and
intend to add some reviews to this site in the near future. If anyone reading
this blog could post their reviews on other seminars they have attended, or
great books they have read on this subject, I highly encourage it as well!

That is Pretty Much It - Although different people take different things
from presentations, the above noted awareness's were the only messages that
helped me from the entire four days. Although these were often expanded on in
many unnecessary ways to fill up time, or as they call it "accelerated
learning", I received and took home this knowledge within about an hour on each
topic (keep in mind train the trainer takes up 40 hours on up). The accelerator
appeared to be busted, as the learning pace seemed to be going about 15mph the
entire time.

On a side note, I am really glad to hear that you found the
Millionaire Mind Intensive useful for your finances and your energy. I highly
recommend finding a "jar system" that really works for you, so that you will
consistently keep it up. I still utilize mine for all of my finances, but have
yet to find anyone else who has kept it up. I use my finance software to track
the jars and it works simply and beautifully for me. Others I spoke with tried
to just use the jars for their spare change, and obviously it had little impact.
Also, don't be afraid to adjust the % on the different jars. It is best to do
this to suit your personal situation and your spending habits, and it still
keeps you on track.

I hope that this information will help you to make
the best decision for you. Happy Holidays!

Vin said...

Hello Inside...

Thank you again for your input, and timely at that! I
appreciate it. I find meaning in this type of intelligent analysis/review. It's
also comforting to know that other's share similar thoughts, feelings, beliefs,
etc.

The information that you provided is very helpful in whether we
pursue further trainings with Peak or not, especially, Train the Trainer. It
seems that you've given me information that is part of the format for the
template (if not actually part of it) with the first four headings of your
response. Do you actually think that the template (materials) itself is actually
copyrighted or the the seminar itself, or the names "Peak Potentials", T. Harv
Eker? I'm looking at the "Attitudes of Wealth" handout with the declarations,
and on the bottom it says c T. Harv Eker, 2005. Personally, that wouldn't stop
me from making a copy of it and giving it to someone who could possible benefit
from it. It still gives him the credit of creating it. It would be great if you
felt you could give me a copy of the template and were comfortable in doing so,
however, it's fine if you don't. Let me know how you think/feel regarding this.

As I stated in my initial inquiry, I don't know that I want to spend all
that time again. Seems like a lot of "fluff" with not much substance or "value"
as Rob and Harv both stated is important to provide. It seems to me like there
should be more than 15% content (as Rob espoused) to a presentation/seminar, as
opposed to 85% context. 15% just doesn't seem like that much value for the buck,
if you know what I mean!

Also, it still kinda erks me when I recall
staying later one evening for the Train the Trainer pitch, and the whole
"insider" bit about just "sipping tea" and not working that hard during the
experiential pieces of a seminar. Also, how they wanted us to feel like a part
of the "insiders club" when they mention the sipping of the tea the next day in
front of the whole group, like the rest missed out on a secret handshake or
something the night before that we were privy to.

I just don't
necessarily think it would be a valuable experience if most of the content of
Train the Trainer is based on "the" template and could really be summed up in
less than one day. At any rate, we'll have to decide the direction of our
course.

Thank you again, and best wishes to you and yours for a Healthy,
Joyous, Peaceful and Abundant Holiday Season.

Sincerely,
Vin

Inside Investigator said...

Hi Vin,

Unfortunately, yes, it is illegal to copy material from another
organization without their direct permission. But I should emphasize to you,
since I wrote the initial blog, I tried utilizing the "template" in a practice
setting. It did not flow or work for me in any way, so I have since filed it
away. I am only utilizing the lessons I noted above, which were not actually
taken from from the template, but mostly from the guest speaker they had. For
me, the "template" adds a Ginzu Knife salesman approach to an informational
presentation. Don't hesitate to really look around at other programs or books.
Also, if you have seen some presenters that you really enjoyed, find out where
they received their training.

I don't know why I didn't think of this
before, but I think the following may answer your question: Train the Trainer is
going to teach you to do presentations exactly like the ones presented by Peak
Potentials (Rob, Harv, and David's style), in the same format. If you like that
style, then Train the Trainer may be worth it for you. If it wasn't your cup of
tea (excuse the pun), then this isn't the right seminar for you.

I hope
that gives you more clarity. Also, if you do continue on with any seminars (from
Peak Potentials or not) or you do read any good development books, I welcome
your future posts.

9:52 AM


Anonymous said...
At TT1, do
they explain how they justify saying that there are only 75(pick whatever number
to limit the seminar to)seats available and yet almost everyone in the room
who's got any sales training knows this is a strategy to get people to buy by a
perceived limit on availability(Caldini). How do they explain the lack of
integrity with this? I have bought courses (Warrior, etc.) long after the
limited number had been exceeded(days after). I was wondering how they explain
my perception of a lie in their sales presentations to get people to buy
immediately?

Inside Investigator said...

Excellent question. They stated during Train the Trainer that you can limit the
number of seats to start with, to say 75 seats. If more people want to sign up
then you expand the capacity of the seminar. They feel that it is not a lie,
since you are limiting the seats up front. However, as you point out, if they
have full intention of expanding the seminar once that 76th person wants to sign
up, it would in fact be a lie. Not to mention, they said to never book the room
or venue, the date, or the speakers in advance of sales. Just sign people up and
give them a date and location later. This allows you to pick a venue that will
accommodate the size, to cancel if there aren't enough people, and to find as
many speakers as you need at that time. So, how will they know the limit on the
number of seats, if they haven't even picked the seminar hall, the date, or the
content. So I guess in answer to your question, they feel it is not a lie
because at that moment, in their heads only, there is a limit on the number of
seats. I agree with you, it is misleading, and a deceptive practice.

More great feedback

MMI attendee said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you...I found your comments quite unbiased. I just
completed the MMI and yes, found it quite useful but I wasn't sure about the
Millionaire School I was enticed to sign up for. I have come to the conclusion
from your comments and from speaking with others who have taken various seminars
and a past volunteer that although I'm sure there will be some substance shared,
I am going to hold on to my $2,000 and spend it on books, other seminars,
perhaps a personal investment counselor and there should be $1000 left to put
into my FFA fund. Thank you for saving my pocketbook.

I agree the MMI is
great and everyone should attend. I like how Harv addresses the emotional side
of money that probably is not addressed by others. I'm sure many who become so
dazzeled by his presence have not taken the initiative to do much exploration of
themselves so while thinking they were attending strictly a financial seminar
instead received a life vision adjustment. That alone would be worth the $97 he
is going to start charging. If you are willing to look at yourself and do the
exercises, it is an absolute that anyone can benefit from the insights you'll
receive. But my many years of life in the business world and experiencing other
seminars allowed my to see the "hype" beneath the presentation. It was quite
evident from the beginning that Peak Potentials is the biggest example of
"passive income" and we were all a part of supporting it. This is why I thought
it best to do some investigation.

To those who are so bent out of shape
about not knowing who you are, what difference does it make? What if you gave a
fake name? Does it matter, the name attached to the comments? Are you going to
look him up and make sure he attended? If the comments weren't so even
tempered... you gave credit where credit was due and exposed the shortcomings.

Your comments: "I have found other books and programs in Harv’s area(s)
of expertise that are far more effective, informational, and condensed." Please,
please post the list. Help those of us who are wading thru the mountain of
investment books.

I will give Harv $500 to attend - do you think he
might "negotiate" for that amount?

We appreciate the positive feedback

Anonymous said...

Thanks. This blog was very useful and struck me as having considerbale
objectivity. Appreciate you taking the time.

Alex L said...

Thanks for taking the time to write this blog. I'm doing a little research on
this company right now since I'm considering applying for an admin job at their
North Vancouver office. Your comments about the staff were helpful.

Another Objective Opinion from the-answer-is-simple

the-answer-is-simple said...

Thank you, Inside Investigator!

I'm heading to the MMI in Seattle, this
weekend. As I always do (at least) a little research before attending/ involving
myself in anything, I am grateful for coming across your blog. I found your
experience to be spot-on with my expectations.

Thank you for taking the
time, I appreciate your openness and 'objective opinion.' =)
Your analytical
review and journalistic style will hopefully assist many in examining all sides
of their interactions (and not just with Peak Potentials). It's unfortunate that
the FACT that peak potentials is a CORPORATION will fall on many deaf ears...
maybe these people can only believe what they see. (And should watch the movie
'The Corporation!') ;)

When I first met Harv I got this feeling... it's
really hard to explain in words: he has amazing energy - - you just want to be
around him, maybe in hope that some of it will rub off on you. So many people
can feel the energy when it’s around them, but don’t know how to create the
energy in their own lives. And Harv apparently does a poor job at helping people
with this - - another customer service issue I gather. So it sounds like many
people follow up with the seminars in an attempt to relive their high. (Sounds
like “chasing the dragon” to me.) Unfortunately, ‘bringing you up to a 10’ is
not something that is easy to maintain… it takes a lot of work and most people
are looking for a quick fix: a ‘secret’ they can learn over a weekend, or for a
few grand. Fortunately, most people (in first world countries) already have the
answers and can easily obtain them. They truly do, just need to take action.

Harv also has this arrogance; like when he says, "whether or not you buy
the book, it will not affect my standard of living." (More on this below…)

I've read the book and I'm looking forward to taking in the event with
my husband and pulling some value out of the haystack! I'm not one to stop
reading and do an exercise either, so the weekend will allow me to put the time
aside to do them. My husband is a skeptic and is not a 'self-help' reader... so
the intensive will 'force' him to examine his ‘beliefs/inaction' too.

As
with every book, I have my criticisms, the book isn't perfect, no book is, and
some of Harv's suggestions have to be modified for certain people and their
priorities/ circumstances. But all-in-all Harv's book has found a place with
other 'classics' which I refer to regularly.

For you critics out there,
let me qualify my post with the following: I am very wealthy already, I do not
need to attend the MMI for the 'money secrets'... my interest is more
'professional' than 'personal'.

As no one can truly separate themselves
from their ‘work’, I try to use the 'personal' experience as part of my
research... if you want to put a label on me, you can consider me a
'psychologist' too.

But I am first and foremost a person… so for the
record, I've personally decided I'm not going to buy any additional seminars
this weekend (although I'm very intrigued - - professionally - - by the 'Train
the Trainer' after reading your review, II. One day I'd love to read more about
what you found so 'VERY enlightening.') I know myself well enough to know that
sleep and nutritional deprivation are my worst enemies...(there is a reason
these are ‘the basics’ on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs) so let’s see if my snack
and H2O arsenal will be enough to help me stick to my guns!

I do have a
couple of additional red flags… A couple of criticisms, or shall I call them
'discrepancies' or 'contradictions'!?!

First, Harv is very good at
laying out a very simple tidbit of information... but the information isn't new.
Much of what he says in his book is reminiscent of Kiyosaki's (Rick Dad, Poor
Dad) work; as well as other authors. Harv has simply assembled, organized and
added 'personal' anecdotes and explanations to it. In fact his main premise can
be summed up in the "The Essence of Destiny" blurb, by the makers of
promotional/inspirational merchandise (available at www.successories.com) which
reads "Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they
become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your
habits, for they will become your character. Develop your character, for it
becomes your destiny." I’ve had this ‘poster’ on my wall for nearly 10years now.

But isn't that the nature of things, we learn, we grow, we learn some
more...
Just like science, where one scientist adds to the years of work
that came before him/her... so do 'self-help' gurus, I guess.

All this
is to say, YES Harv does provide value.

So, where’s my beef? If it’s not
with Harv’s paraphrasing and elaborating?

I suppose I too have found
other books and programs in Harv’s area(s) of expertise that have far more
substance. (Maybe that is also their downfall? Are people today really that
shallow?) I also find it disheartening that Harv is mentioned in the same
sentence as Tony Robbins, et all.

Tony doesn't seem to have lost sight
of his original vision... (Maybe it was Tony's slower ascent to 'fame'? ) Tony
provides great suggestions for ‘bringing yourself to a “level 10” and
maintaining the energy. Tony’s ‘Get the Edge’ program has great suggestions, but
again people think they are too simple and don’t follow them!

Harv on
the other hand seems to be a walking, talking contradiction. He is controlling
the very “Wealth File” he promotes in his book to persuade MMI attendees to
purchase additional seminars at his events. I am referencing “Wealth File #10 –
Rich people are excellent receivers. Poor people are poor receivers.”

He
knows full well that the ‘poor people’ who attend his event for free will not
feel ‘worthy’. They believe they are ‘taking’ without ‘giving anything back.’
Harv is playing on your psychological need for balance - an eye for an eye.
Don’t discount yourself! You are giving 3 days of your time! You don’t have to
buy a seminar to ‘create balance’! Independence is a myth; equality is not
something that humans can quantify, there are too many factors. We are all
dependent/ connected: we share the same sun, water, air…
Harv says, “Nature
is totally abundant but not discriminating… exactly the way it works with money.
There’s plenty of it…” And Harv seems to have enough of it now, as ‘He doesn’t
care if we buy the book or not!’ =)

One might also argue that he
exploits “Wealth File #6 – Rich people admire other rich and successful people.
Poor people resent rich and successful people.” When he tells us we can make a
purchase without lining his pockets further, some of us ‘poor people’ might not
dislike him as much… and buy his book, while thinking “I’m just one person, what
difference will it make really?!?”

Finally, I am disgusted that Harv has
become so greedy he no longer upholds his original pillars: (1) that no one
should go into debt to attend any of his seminars. (2) that each of us has the
answers within us, and we alone can make our success happen.

- - As II
and others have said, the money dance, Ch-ing! of the register and the promotion
of plastic are disturbing. Get the book from the library, do the exercises or
buy the book and attend the MMI if you want (for free). If you dont have the
money now, leave the plastic at home!

- - Every ‘self-help’ Guru says
this in their own way. Harv say’s “The number one reason most people don’t get
what they want is that they don’t know what they want.”
People are too busy
watching the next episode of LOST (such an appropriate title for the state of
our society), downloading music for their new iPod, or slogging away at a job
they HATE to buy the new wardrobe, car, boat, house… that they don’t ever stop
to examine themselves. I applaud Peak Potentials and any other group out there
for ‘enabling’ people to take some time out of their life and ‘think’! HOWEVER,
more seminars or coaching is not going to ‘fix’ the problem.

Harv has
accomplished so much. Yet, his sales tactics now seem to be taking advantage of
the same people he was trying to help!

You ‘poor people’ out there, ask
yourself this: if you aren’t willing to dedicate the next year, maybe 2 years of
your life to financial freedom then you will never ‘get it’. Buy another lottery
ticket or go to the casino instead!

I said earlier that each of us
already know the answers and have access to them.
But you probably want me
to spell them out for you, right?

Well here they are! Summed up in two
sentences, for FREE! There are books, tapes and movies on these secrets… yet
most people find them ‘too simple’ and so they don’t follow them.

What’s
the secret to energy?
“Eat only foods that were available 100 years ago;
exercise; read something educational/inspirational; and reward your successes,
everyday.”

What’s the secret to wealth?
“Know yourself, focus on
what is important to you (priorities) and do what you love!”
That’s it.

Now you’ve got the secrets, what are you going to do with them?